From: owner-ane@ (ANE Digest) To: ane-digest Subject: ANE Digest V1998 #51 Reply-To: Sender: owner-ane@ Errors-To: owner-ane@ Precedence: bulk ANE Digest Saturday, February 21 1998 Volume 1998 : Number 051 ane Re: Ekron Inscription ane Two sarcophagi Re: ane Re: Ekron Inscription ane:Persia and Purim ane Symposium on Ancient City-States ane Institute of Nautical Archaeology's branch in Egypt ane American Oriental Society Web Site Re: ane:Persia and Purim ane Annual Conference ane new vols. of _Aula Orientalis_ ane 45th RAI deadline extended ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:26:07 +0200 (GMT) From: mikeyb Subject: ane Re: Ekron Inscription Hi George, >I do not have the article by Gitin, Dothan, and Naveh in IEJ regarding >the Ekron Inscription to hand, so can someone please tell me the date >they assign to the inscription? I'm assuming that you're talking about the inscription found in at the start of July 1996. I was there as a volunteer that session and the inscription was found two squares away from me by a friend. Sy and Trude said then it would have dated around 620 BC. If you want further information I can put you in touch with Sy himself. Sincerely, Michael, Archaeology student, University of Cape Town. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:34:00 +0200 From: Naccache Subject: ane Two sarcophagi On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:45, George Athas wrote: >Dear Albert and Daniel, > >Gentlemen, can we please keep such discussion off the list? I personally >do not appreciate political or racial comments on a scholarly >archaeological forum, and I believe many others feel the same. If you >must discuss such issues, please refrain from using this discussion list >as the medium. Although the issues you raise are important, they do not >belong on ANE. Please consider others, too. George, I resent both the patronizing tone and the content of your message. I have not engaged in a discussion with Paul Daniels (nor do I intend to), nor have I made "political or racial comments". If you think that the issue of ethnicity, how it is defined, how it is used, etc., should not be discussed in a forum dealing with the ANE, (i.e., if we cannot speak anymore of Ammonites, Amorites, Arabs, Arameans, Canaanites, Hebrew, Idumeans, Israelites, Phoenicians, Proto-Arabs, etc..., and of how we define those concepts) what do you propose we discuss? Prehistory? Or may be you would like us all to adopt "your" definitions and concepts? You also write Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:24:29 : >Can anyone tell me what the Ahiram Sarcophagus and Eshmunazar >Sarcophagus were each made of? Also, on what surface are the texts on >these sarcophagii written on? > >Thanks in advance! >George Athas > PhD (Cand.), University of Sydney > Tutor of Hebrew, Moore Theological College > As any textbook would have it, one is of black basalt, the other of limestone. Albert Naccache Lebanese University anaccash@dm.net.lb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:01:27 -0500 (EST) From: hurowitz@sas.upenn.edu (Victor Hurowitz) Subject: Re: ane Re: Ekron Inscription Dear all, Sy and Trude do not actually give a date for the inscription. It is of Akish ben Padi who, as the editors point out is mentioned in an inscriptions of Esarhaddon and Assurbanipal relating to events of the years 680-669 and 667 respctively. They state specifically "It is reasonable to state that the reign of Ikausu began at or around the time that he is first mentioned in the annals of Esarhaddon. This would support a date for the construction of Temple Complex 650 no later that the first quarter of the seventh century B.C.E., which is consistent with the stratigraphic and textual data that suggest that it was built early in Stratum IC.." Victor Hurowitz mikeyb wrote: > > Hi George, > > >I do not have the article by Gitin, Dothan, and Naveh in IEJ regarding > >the Ekron Inscription to hand, so can someone please tell me the date > >they assign to the inscription? > > I'm assuming that you're talking about the inscription found in at the start > of July 1996. > > I was there as a volunteer that session and the inscription was found two > squares away from me by a friend. Sy and Trude said then it would have dated > around 620 BC. If you want further information I can put you in touch with > Sy himself. > > Sincerely, > Michael, > Archaeology student, > University of Cape Town. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:54:45 -0500 (EST) From: Lisbeth Fried Subject: ane:Persia and Purim Is there any evidence for pogroms against Jews or others in Achaemenid Persia? My evidence suggests that such would not have been the case. What would have prompted the story then? I realize that stories can be made up without any context for them but our own fears, eg. "War of the Worlds," "Godzilla," etc. But one may ask of all of these what the origin of those fears was, and what led them to be expressed in this way? Thanks, Liz Lisbeth S. Fried Dept. of Hebrew and Judaic Studies New York University lizfried@umich.edu lqf9256@is3.nyu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:55:16 -0700 From: John Tvedtnes Subject: ane Symposium on Ancient City-States I note that the Royal Danish Academy will sponsor a symposium on ancient city-states in Copenhagen 5-10 January 1999. City-states to be discussed in the symposium are: Sumerian (Jean-Jacques Glassner) Assyrian (Mogens Trolle Larsen) Phoenician (Hans-Georg Niemeyer) Greek (Mogens Herman Hansen) Etruscan (Mario Torelli) Latium (Tim Cornell) Viking city-states in Ireland (Paul Holm) Italian (Stephan Epstein) Hansa and the German Reichsstadte (Peter Johannek) Swiss (Martina Stercken) Maya (Nikolai Grube) Mzab (Jaabiri Farhat) Hausa (Robert R. Griffith) Malay (Anthony Reid) Interested parties can contact the Copenhagen Polis Centre, Njalsgade 94, DK-2300 Copenhagen, FAX 31-548954; E-mail polis@coco.ihi.ku.dk John A. Tvedtnes Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies Brigham Young University ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:10:04 -0600 From: "Charles E. Jones" Subject: ane Institute of Nautical Archaeology's branch in Egypt Forwarded on behalf of the undersigned, to whom responses and inquiries should be directed. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Institute of Nautical Archaeology's branch in Egypt (INA-Egypt) invites you to visit our new website at http://www.adventurecorps.com/inaegypt.html where shipwreck survey and excavation reports from Mediterranean and Red Sea projects with Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities are available, along with focused reports on shipwreck archaeobotany, Chinese export porcelain in the Red Sea, and the Alexandria Conservation Laboratory for Submerged Antiquities. Thanks to Archaeoscience International and Chris Kostman for their help in bringing the site online. Cheryl Haldane Ward Archaeological Director, INA-Egypt cward@io.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:00:11 -0500 From: Jonathan Rodgers Subject: ane American Oriental Society Web Site The NEW URL of American Oriental Society web site is: www.umich.edu/~aos/ The web site at the old address, with a link to the new, will be accessible for a month or two before it closes. Please make the necessary changes in your bookmarks and web site links. Thanks. Jonathan Rodgers ========================================================================= Jonathan Rodgers Graduate Library, University of Michigan Secretary-Treasurer, Ann Arbor MI 48109-1205 American Oriental Society (734) 764-7555; FAX (734) 763-6743 jrodgers@umich.edu AOS Home Page: http://www.umich.edu/~aos/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:12:54 -0500 From: Richard Stern Subject: Re: ane:Persia and Purim You could raise the same questions about the Book of Tobit and about Jonah. It is a problem to make any sense out of any of the material written during these centuries. (That's an overstatement! :-) It's not true of Ben Sirach, for example. Nor Ecclesiastes. But there's an awful lot of what many of us would regard as low quality material. You might ask instead what led to the decline in literary quality or intellectual content at this point in history.) Best wishes, Richard H. Stern email: rstern@ablondifoster.com web: www.ablondifoster.com snail: 1130 Conn. Av. NW - Ste. 500, Wash. DC 20036 >>> Lisbeth Fried 02/20/98 09:54AM >>> Is there any evidence for pogroms against Jews or others in Achaemenid Persia? My evidence suggests that such would not have been the case. What would have prompted the story then? I realize that stories can be made up without any context for them but our own fears, eg. "War of the Worlds," "Godzilla," etc. But one may ask of all of these what the origin of those fears was, and what led them to be expressed in this way? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:39:47 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Douglas Feinman Subject: ane Annual Conference The Westchester Chapter of the Archaeological Institute of America and Concordia College are pleased to announce their fourth annual joint symposium: THE JOURNEY STORY IN THE ANCIENT WORLD From Adam and Eve to the Starship Enterprise, people tell journey stories. The stories people tell, be they mythical, historical, literary, or a combination thereof, are a window into the soul of that people or culture. In this symposium we seek to enter that window into the heart and soul of three ancient cultures, Egypt, Israel, and Greece. To guide us on this journey, we have obtained the services of three highly trained and entertaining speakers: Prof. Tamara Green, Chair of the Department of Classical and Oriental Studies at Hunter College who will speak on Odysseus Prof. Lanny Bell, Oriental Institute and Brown University, who will speak on Sinuhe Prof. P. Kyle McCarter, the William Foxwell Albright Professor of Biblical and Ancient Near Eastern Studies at Johns Hopkins University, who will speak on Abraham. We have asked the speakers to consider such questions as: 1. Who goes on the journey - king, god, commoner? 2. Where is the final destination - this world, the new world, the next world, or be it ever so humble there is no place like home? 3. What is the goal or purpose of the journey? Date: Sunday, March 1, 1998 Time: 2:00-5:30 P.M. followed by a wine and cheese reception Place: Sommer Center Concordia College 171 White Plains Road Bronxville, NY Optional: dinner and panel discussion ($25) For additional information please call Merlin Rehm, chapter president, 914-337-9300 ext.2218 at Concordia College. Peter Feinman Secretary Westchester Chapter AIA P.S. I know that we should include Gilgamesh but we have a three speaker limit in our chapter. I hope to schedule a similar type conference in NYC later in the spring which will include him as well. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:15:15 -0600 From: "Charles E. Jones" Subject: ane new vols. of _Aula Orientalis_ Forwarded on behalf of the undersigned, to whom responses and inquiries should be directed. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Gonzalo Rubio Two new vols. of _Aula Orientalis_ just came out. The first is supplement 11, with Molina's transliterations and indexes of the Montserrat Neosumerian administrative tablets (he published the copies in MVN 18); it includes and appendix by Waetzoldt, "Siegelliste". The second is the most recent issue of the journal, Festschrift Camps, and has several articles on the historical, literary, and administrative texts from Montserrat by Civil, Molina, Marquez Rowe, Barbara Boeck, Wunsch, etc. M. MOLINA. _Tablillas administrativas neosumerias de la Abadia de Montserrat (Barcelona). Transliteraciones e indices_ [with an appendix, H. Waetzoldt, "Siegelliste"]. Aula Orientalis Supplementa 11. Sabadell (Barcelona): AUSA, 1997. 483 pp. M. MOLINA - I. MARQUEZ ROWE (eds). _Tabulae Montserratinae. Estudios de catalogacion del Museo de Montserrat (Barcelona) dedicados al P. G. Camps con ocasion de su 80 aniversario_. _Aula Orientalis_ 15 (1997). 296 pp. The contributions to this volumen are: R. Diaz i Carbonell, "Origen y vicisitudes historicas de la coleccion de textos cuneiformes del Museo de Montserrat", pp. 11-20. I. Marquez Rowe - M. Molina, "Catalogo de textos cuneiformes publicados conservados en el Museo de Montserrat", pp. 21-31. M. Molina - B. Boeck, "Textos y fragmentos literarios sumerios", pp. 33-41. M. Civil, "The Instructions of King Ur-Ninurta: a New Fragment", pp. 43-53. I. Marquez Rowe, "Erra en Montserrat", pp. 55-61. M. Molina, "Inscripciones reales conmemorativas neosumerias", pp. 63-67. I. Marquez Rowe, "Inscripciones reales cuneiformes del II y I milenio a. de C.", pp. 69-98 J.A. Belmonte Marin, "Old Babylonian Administrative and Legal Texts from the Montserrat Museum", pp. 99-137. C. Wunsch, "Neu- und spätbabylonische Urkunden aus dem Museum von Montserrat", pp. 139-194. I. Márquez Rowe - C. Wunsch, "The Kudurru Fragment of the Montserrat Museum", pp. 195-200. J.L. Montero Fenollos, "Bronces de Palestina en el Museo de Montserrat", pp. 201-222. C. Valdes, "Catalogo de terracotas mesopotamicas del Museo de Montserrat", pp. 223-296. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:24:55 -0600 From: "Charles E. Jones" Subject: ane 45th RAI deadline extended Forwarded on behalf of the undersigned, to whom responses and inquiries should be directed. [Note that the 2nd circular Letter mentioned below is available on-line at: http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/DEPT/RA/rai/45_2ndCirc.html ] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 20 February 1998 To Our Colleagues: Because the response to our Second Circular Letter has been rather apathetic, the 45th RAI Organizing Committee has decided to extend the registration deadline until March 31, 1998, without penalty. We appeal to our colleagues to make known as soon as possible their intention to attend the 45th RAI, since we need an accurate count in order to plan the program and reserve the lecture halls. Colleagues who cannot make the necessary financial commitment for registration at this time should nevertheless indicate now their intention to attend. We need to hear from them very soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation! Piotr Steinkeller Harvard University Chairman, 45th RAI Organizing Committee - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph A. Greene Tel: 617-495-5656 Semitic Museum Fax: 617-496-8904 Harvard University email: greene5@fas.harvard.edu 6 Divinity Avenue Cambridge MA 02138 ------------------------------ End of ANE Digest V1998 #51 *************************** Back issues are available on the Oriental Institute World-Wide Web (WWW) site at: http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/ANE/OI_ANE.html