From: owner-ane@ (ANE Digest) To: ane-digest Subject: ANE Digest V1998 #322 Reply-To: Sender: owner-ane@ Errors-To: owner-ane@ Precedence: bulk ANE Digest Saturday, November 21 1998 Volume 1998 : Number 322 ane Sumerians Re: ane homeland of PS Re: ane homeland of PS ane New Mailing List - ARCHPUB - Archaeological Publications ane Job: Assistant Editor - AJA ane studying near eastern archaeology in France Re: ane homeland of PS Re: ane homeland of PS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:02:27 +0100 (NFT) From: Gianfranco Zucchi Subject: ane Sumerians I've already sent a message to ANE-list concerning my interest about the Uruk period,but only two persons had answered to me(and I thank them too much).Does in the worldwide nobody else is interested in everything about the ancient,middle and late Uruk period? Thank you! GIANFRANCO ZUCCHI Student at the University of Pisa (ITALY) g.zucchi@humnet.unipi. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:35:39 -0500 From: "Peter T. Daniels" Subject: Re: ane homeland of PS Don Mills wrote: > Bill Fowley of Brown University writes > () that the > Papuan languages fall into about 60 families which have no known > relationship to one another, but (like the Australian linguist Stephen Wurm > before him) expresses the expectation that, with further research, "this > picture will become simpler; a number of families will probably combine into > larger families, as Romance, Germanic and Slavic combine into the > Indo-European family." Some moves in the direction of consolidation have > already been made; the University of Sydney summary quoted above goes on to > say, "Given the very high number of Papuan languages, one would expect them > to exhibit an equally wide range of structural features. While Papuan > languages are typologically very varied, it is also true that there are a > number of significant generalizations that can be made about their > structural types." When Wurm wrote his Encyclopaedia Britannica article > (1986), there were around 50 isolates outstanding; according to the PNG home > site (), this has now been reduced to > a mere seven. Is that a different person from the William A. Foley of ANU who wrote *The Papuan Languages of New Guinea* (Cambridge, 1986)? The "Languages of the World" articles in the Britannica were first published in that form in 1974 (the first emission of the 15th ed.), and some of them at least were carried over from late emissions of the 14th ed.; according to Morris Goodman ("African Languages"), a revision of Britannica's Languages articles has been in progress for years. - -- Peter T. Daniels grammatim@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:10:22 GMT From: mcv@wxs.nl (Miguel Carrasquer Vidal) Subject: Re: ane homeland of PS "Don Mills" wrote: >Miguel's view of the Papuan language families is, unfortunately, out of >date. Quoting from a University of Sydney web page >(): > >"New Guinea is linguistically extremely diverse, with 1,000 languages in a >land area of some 900,000km2 or one language in every 900km2. This is a >language density unparalleled elsewhere, and in some areas, such as the >Sepik-Ramu basin, the density is much greater than that, as much as one in >every 200km2. 750, or seventy-five percent, of these languages are Papuan. >[etc.] I don't see how this contradicts what I said. If I was having second thoughts about mentioning New Guinea, it's because (1) the diversity is rather *too* extreme (NG is what Johanna Nichols calls a "residual zone", like the Caucasus or the Nuba Hills. Most of the world, including the pre-Neolithic Near East is likely not to have been that diverse, although it certainly was more diverse than now), and (2) technically, pre-contact New Guinea was not pre-Neolithic. A form of horticulture has been practiced there for thousands of years (can't find a reference to the date, but as I recall it was really ancient). I am aware of Wurm's work on the "Trans New-Guinea" (TNG) phylum. Other specialists, like William Foley, do not agree and still classify the "Papuan" languages of NG and neighbouring islands into dozens of unrelated groups. Greenberg puts them all (including the non-TNG ones, plus Andamanian and Tasmanian), in an "Indo-Pacific" super-phylum. And even if all the "Papuan" languages are ultimately related, which is not unlikely (it is not unlikely that *all* languages are ultimately related) that still doesn't take anything away from the extreme linguistic variety of New Guinea. ======================= Miguel Carrasquer Vidal mcv@wxs.nl Amsterdam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:21:42 +0200 From: Archaeology on the Net Subject: ane New Mailing List - ARCHPUB - Archaeological Publications ARCHPUB - Archaeological Publications Announcement List ARCHPUB is a new moderated announcement list / discussion group aiming to provide a platform for the announcement and review of archaeological publications (ie recently published or forthcoming books, journals, etc.). Updates and monthly additions to Archaeology on the Net Books Database will also be announced through ARCHPUB. ARCHPUB is mainly an announcement list with weekly 1 to 4 postings sent to the members by the list owner. 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Jones" Subject: ane Job: Assistant Editor - AJA Forwarded on behalf of the undersigned, to whom responses and inquiries should be directed. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx POSITION AVAILABLE 1 JANUARY 1999 Assistant Editor, American Journal of Archaeology The Assistant Editor is responsible directly to the Editor-in-Chief of AJA and works closely with the Associate Editor in Boston at the headquarters of the Archaeological Institute of America. The position is 35 hours/week in a non-smoking environment. Salary is commensurate with experience. Excellent benefits. RESPONSIBILITIES: The Assistant Editor assists in the editing and production of each issue of AJA, with specific responsibility for keeping track of incoming manuscripts, reviews, and galley proofs; preparing illustrations for the press; proofreading all copy; compiling authors' and editors' corrections; and coordinating fundraising activities. 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American Journal of Archaeology 656 Beacon Street Boston, Massachusetts 02215-2010 Tel: 617-353-9364 Fax: 617-353-6550 e-mail: aja@bu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:36:28 -0800 From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: ane studying near eastern archaeology in France Thanks to all for the information in regards to Near Eastern archaeological programs in the USA. I'm also interested in studying for a year or more Near Eastern (Israel) archaeology in France so I can learn French also. Does anyone know of any schools - public or private including religious - that offers programs in Near Eastern archaeology? Thanks for any help! Sincerely, Andrew Jones ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:30:22 +1300 From: "Don Mills" Subject: Re: ane homeland of PS Quoting from a University of Sydney web page article, I wrote: "New Guinea is linguistically extremely diverse, with 1,000 languages in a land area of some 900,000km2 or one language in every 900km2. This is a language density unparalleled elsewhere ...". Miguel Carrasquer Vidal responded, "I don't see how this contradicts what I said." He was quite right, of course: it didn't. But the continuation of my quotation, which he fails to refer to (Anglo-Saxon preposition placement there!), struck out in a different direction. It explained how the extreme diversity of Papuan languages *could* all derive from a common ancestor, given the prevailing factors -- temporal (minimum 40,000 years), geographical (very isolated communities), and cultural (language-trade vs. community identity). My real point was made at the end of my posting: that the present-day situation in P-NG, the product of tens of thousands of years of linguistic and cultural development, is no reliable guide to conditions of the very distant past in the Middle East (or elsewhere for that matter). But I suspect I'm missing a point of Miguel's -- otherwise I can't account for his final comment: "Even if all the 'Papuan' languages are ultimately related, which is not unlikely (it is not unlikely that *all* languages are ultimately related) that still doesn't take anything away from the extreme linguistic variety of New Guinea." Regards, Don Mills Wellington New Zealand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:37:42 +1300 From: "Don Mills" Subject: Re: ane homeland of PS I wrote: "Bill Fowley of Brown University writes ..." Peter Daniels asked, "Is that a different person from the William A. Foley of ANU who wrote *The Papuan Languages of New Guinea* (Cambridge, 1986)?" No, Peter, it isn't (a different person) -- it's a double error on my part (s/b "Bill Foley of U. of Sydney"). My apologies to him and to ANE-ers. (And thanks for the update on the Britannica info.) Don Mills Wellington New Zealand ------------------------------ End of ANE Digest V1998 #322 **************************** Back issues are available on the Oriental Institute World-Wide Web (WWW) site at: http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/ANE/OI_ANE.html