From: owner-ane@ (ANE Digest) To: ane-digest Subject: ANE Digest V1999 #159 Reply-To: Sender: owner-ane@ Errors-To: owner-ane@ Precedence: bulk ANE Digest Tuesday, June 8 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 159 ane Articles from UF journal Re: ane Font editor Re: ane Fwd: orion-list "antilanguage' at Qumran ane Bostra? RE: ane Bostra? ane FWD: Job at the TLG ane FWD: New Hittite Art ane: Weighing or Paying? etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:27:29 +1000 From: George Athas Subject: ane Articles from UF journal I was wondering if there is a kind soul out there who has access to the journal UF (Ugar. Forsch.) and who is willing to photocopy some articles from there for me? I cannot get my hands on the relevant issues. There are about 7 or so articles I need. Please respond off-list. (Remember, I am in Australia.) Many thanks. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: GEORGE ATHAS Dept of Semitic Studies, University of Sydney ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Tel Dan Inscription Website is at http://members.xoom.com/gathas/teldan.htm ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 07:54:53 -0600 From: John Tvedtnes Subject: Re: ane Font editor Marcio L Redondo wrote:> >Dear Roberto, > >Depending on both the kind of diacritics you are looking for and the wordprocessor you use, you won't need another font. As for myself I sometimes need to transliterate Semitic languages and use the overstrike feature of Wordperfect (Word for Windows has a similar feature) for creating characters like a "t" with a dot underneath. As for "o" and "e" with a macron, they are respectively characters 1,165 and 1,111 in Wordperfect. I have short macros assigned to keys which automatically insert the desired characters. These macros work fine in Wordperfect. You must be using an old version of WordPerfect. The Windows versions have an "Insert - Symbol" feature that will take you directly to various fonts, one of which, Multinational, has all the diacriticals except two--the subscript dot and hook (or whatever it's called). These, however, can be added by using the "Advance" feature in Typsetting (under "Format"). To add them, do a horizontal advance of 0.05 left and a vertical of 0.03 down for 12 point font, then readjust the vertical for the rest of the line. John A. Tvedtnes Brigham Young University ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 12:09:03 -0400 From: "Richard Stern" Subject: Re: ane Fwd: orion-list "antilanguage' at Qumran Virgil, perhaps you might want to explain your terminology for the benefit of the majority. Besides, you want summary judgment, not a demurrer, since you are raising all kinds of fact issues; you can't support a demurrer. And anyway demurrers have been passe since ca. 1938 CE in all but benighted jurisdictions such as RI. JMOL? ======================================= Best Wishes - Richard H. Stern rstern@computer.org 1150 18th St. NW, # 900 Washington DC 20036-4129 http://www.law.gwu.edu/facweb/claw/rhs1.htm ======================================= >>> 06/06 10:47 PM >>> > He argues for relationships between the Essene community and > the type of Hebrew it used, for example, in avoiding loan words and > "mishnaic" Hebrew developments. ("Antilanguage" seems not an ideal term > to describe this, but is taken from sociolinguistics.) Granted that there was a sect at Qumran. Granted that an "antilanguage" is created by linguistic choices. And granted that there are parade examples of the anomalous character of QH. However crucial to Schniedewind's argument is the determination that Qim- ron's "historical argument" is not sufficient. Schniedewind wants a directed verdict. I want a demurrer. Virgil Brown ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:53:15 -0400 From: "Peter T. Daniels" Subject: ane Bostra? Lindsey Davis's Roman mystery *Last Act in Palmyra* moves from Petra to Bostra. Is that the Latin name of some location that should be familiar to me? I can't find it in any ANE indexes, and it's apparently the northern outpost of the Nabatean kingdom in 72 C.E. (The Marcus Didius Falco series is quite entertaining. It would seem to be about the right time of year for another discussion of historical fiction suitable for beaches and such, considering that it's expected to be 100°F in New York today.) - -- Peter T. Daniels grammatim@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:43:53 +0200 From: Aayko Eyma Subject: RE: ane Bostra? **Sieglin's historical atlas places a Bostra in Auranitis (Hauran), in Roman Palestine, that is at the site of modern Bousra (SW of Jebel ed Druz, s.Syria). Whether this is meant I cannot tell. I could not find it in primary sources. (The connection with Petra would nearly suggest that the Edomite Bosra is meant, which I do not think was written Bostra in Roman times though?) Aayko Eyma - ---------- From: Peter T. Daniels[SMTP:grammatim@worldnet.att.net] Sent: 07 June 1999 19:53 To: ANE List Subject: ane Bostra? Lindsey Davis's Roman mystery *Last Act in Palmyra* moves from Petra to Bostra. Is that the Latin name of some location that should be familiar to me? I can't find it in any ANE indexes, and it's apparently the northern outpost of the Nabatean kingdom in 72 C.E. (The Marcus Didius Falco series is quite entertaining. It would seem to be about the right time of year for another discussion of historical fiction suitable for beaches and such, considering that it's expected to be 100?F in New York today.) - -- Peter T. Daniels grammatim@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:38:50 -0500 From: "Charles E. Jones" Subject: ane FWD: Job at the TLG Forwarded on behalf of the undersigned, to whom responses and inquiries should be directed. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Maria C. PANTELIA" Possible opening The Thesaurus Linguae Graecae Project (TLG) at the University of California Irvine invites applications for a full-time research appointment effective August 1, 1999. This appointment is for an initial one-year period subject to annual renewal. The successful candidate will report to the director of the project and will be responsible for TLG digitization, text correction and data administration procedures. Although programming experience is not required, familiarity with technology (especially MS-Windows platform) is essential. Conceptual knowledge of encoding methods and techniques is highly desirable. Attention to detail, excellent communication skills and ability to work independently and to handle multiple projects are necessary qualities for this position. Prerequisites: Graduate degree (Ph.D. preferred) in Classics with an emphasis in Greek. Starting salary will range from $31,044 to 48,924 depending upon qualifications and experience. The University of California offers an attractive benefits package. Applicants should send a letter of application, a curriculum vitae and three letters of reference to Professor Maria Pantelia, University of California Irvine, Thesaurus Linguae Graecae, 3450 Berkeley Place, Irvine, CA 92697-5550; phone (949) 824-7709; fax: (949) 824-8434; e-mail: mcpantel@uci.edu Application deadline: July 15, 1999. UC Irvine is an Equal Opportunity employer committed to excellence through diversity. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:55:02 -0500 From: "Charles E. Jones" Subject: ane FWD: New Hittite Art From Winfried Orthmann ==================== I would like to draw the attention of Near Eastern Archaeologists on a volume published by the Turkish Ministry of Culture, the papers presented at the "IX Mueze Kurtarma Kazilari Semineri (27-29 Nisan 1998)", printed in Ankara 1999. It contains two reports on recently found important Hittite art objects: - - a paper by the director of Adana Museum, Mr. Ismet Ipek, and collaborators gives details and photographs of a statue of the Weather God, found 1997 near Adana, showing the god not standing on a base with a pair of bulls as in Karatepe, but on a chariot drawn by a pair of bulls; - - a paper by Ismet Ediz, Director of the Corum Museum, and collaborators is the first publication of two Hittite relief vases found near Sungurlu in the province of Corum, which resemble in style the famous Inandik vase. Winfried Orthmann ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:58:20 -0700 From: Morris Silver Subject: ane: Weighing or Paying? etc. In an earlier post I cited Dercksen to the effect that in the Old Assyrian texts we sometimes find prices being expressed in terms of copper ingots where the quantity is expressed only by giving the number of ingots instead of their weight which "points to a more or less customary weight and size for this type." On Tuesday, June 01, 1999 at 5:40 PM Judy Bjorkman wrote as follows: I think that Dercksen's remark is wishful thinking. Many (probably most) times, prices in cuneiform literature are expressed in terms of things for which there is too little information given to justify such statements as that ingots had a "more or less customary weight and size..." To illustrate this problem, I refer to the CAD S 375, "sad_alu," where the lone reference is translated as follows: "23 hides, twelve sad_al_i of copper, the purchase price of the ass, are with PN." I.e., the price included 23 hides, about which we know nothing more, and unfortunately we know nothing more about the copper object either...." I have consulted with Dercksen and it appears that the incomplete translation in the CAD is misleading. Dercksen's translation of (TC 2, 62) is as follows: 6 talents 51 minas of copper, our share; 23 ... hides, their weight is one and a half talent; 12 sadalu's of copper, the price of a donkey, is owed by Dakuku; one and a half mina of silver (and) one jar with acorns is owed by Ennamum. All of this my merchandise (which) I sent (lit.'(which) went') to Hinaya, transported by Shalim-Beli. (I gave the transporter) two shekels of silver to pay his expenses en route (lit. 'for this hand'). The following points should be noted: (1) The hides do not belong to the price fetched for the donkey; (2) The weight of the hides is stated; (3) The price of the donkey is stated only in terms of the NUMBER of ingots; (4) The payment to the transporter is stated in terms of the number of shekels of silver; (5) While references to metal quality are frequent in the Old Assyrian tablets ("good quality copper/refined copper"), There is no reference to quality of the silver or the copper sadalu's. Thus, it would seem that, for this example at least, Dercksen's point finds support in the evidence. Perhaps we need to review that statement that references to ingots of "more or less customary size" are "wishful thinking." Reactions? Best, Morris ------------------------------ End of ANE Digest V1999 #159 **************************** Back issues are available on the Oriental Institute World-Wide Web (WWW) site at: http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/ANE/OI_ANE.html